Nancy Moneagle (Interview Archive)
And people really do shift in that direction. Nobody wakes up one morning suddenly devoted to serving others, but something loosens once you get a little past the usual ego worries, past the roles we cram ourselves into. I keep calling those roles limiting because so many of them grow out of fear about how we live. The question I come back to is simple: how can you open your life in a way that lifts your own experience and the experience of everyone you come into contact with? That's the whole point of what we do. Being mindful. Being aware. Being conscious.
Erik: Wonderful. For listeners curious about the work I gather you were part of, there were people connected to the military. I believe one of them went by Skip Atwater, probably one of the stranger chapters the Monroe Institute has been tied to. Any time the military takes an interest in something, we tend to want to talk about it, because if they're paying attention, maybe the rest of us should be paying attention too. So could you walk us through a bit of that?
Nancy: Of course, and gladly, because I know this story from the inside. Skip Atwater was an old friend of ours. He was already in his seventies when he started coming around to see Bob, carrying papers he'd dug up on how sound affects consciousness and all of that. After he retired from the Army, he came here and we brought him on in our lab. The unit he'd been part of was an intelligence outfit from INSCOM, the Intelligence and Security Command, though I'm blanking on part of the full name.
He and a colleague of his, a man named Joe McMoneagle, got deeply into the programs we ran here. At the time there was a classified project underway called Stargate, I'm not sure if that's familiar to you. Its purpose was training psychics to be used for operational work inside the Army. My husband, Joe McMoneagle, turned out to be among the strongest of those people, what they call remote viewers.
The real distinction between a psychic and a remote viewer comes down to how the work is set up. Remote viewing is done double blind, under tight scientific protocols. With a psychic you might just ask, "So what's going on with Aunt Pitty Pat?" With remote viewing, somebody writes Aunt Pitty Pat on a slip of paper, seals it in an envelope, marks the outside with something like a date to tag the target, and then tells you, "Describe the target and tell me where it is." That's the difference.